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This kind of player is no longer welcome in WoW

Courtesy of Tobold’s Blog, we have a relic of a long past age. I wonder what will happen when he finally gets that this kind of mentality is what Blizzard is working against?

Raiding is obsolete only if you want to look good in your welfare epics. But, truth be told, there’s still the Battlegear of Might of today, ala gear that does not come from emblems, and cannot be crafted. Those who know can look beyond your padded gearscore and see that all you’ve done really is farm heroics and gold to get where you’re at, and while that’s work and it also takes time, it’s NOTHING, NOTHING compared to standing and taking a saberlash, or saving 24 others from certain doom. Heroics, even including the 3 new ones, are still a faceroll, and while trash mobs in raids are still an AOE joke, the bosses present a much more challenging and much more time consuming foe in raids. It’s no contest. Sure, you can gear up outside of raids, but that is there to help you better prepare for actually doing them. – Dread

Now, in his profile, he describes himself as casual. Yet, something about that comment has a distinctly uncasual ring to it. Casuals tend not to be so elitist.

I understand what the guy is pushing. And, honestly, I don’t disagree with his central point of “25 man’s are harder.” But, it’s the attitude. Sorry buddy, “welfare epics” went out with patch 3.3. Welfare epics, by your description, are pretty much the norm for most players. That makes you the exception.

I’d love to be part of a 25-man raid sometime. I really would, and I don’t blame anyone for getting in there when they have the chance, it seems like a lot of fun. But, doing it with 15 more people than the rest of us doesn’t make you any better of a person or player. It means you played the game differently. That’s all.

I’ve never understood this mentality that taking that different approach, or devoting more time, made you somehow better than everyone else. And I’m the kind of player that believes every player shouldn’t be able to achieve every goal without altering their commitment.  I realize that’s an antiquated view and that most people disagree with it. Yet, even so, I firmly believe that, even the people who do achieve more are on the exact same level with the more casual player.

Gear is not a measuring stick for your rung on the social ladder. In a game like WoW, it will help you do better, but, really, we’re all just people playing a game. That elitist mindset doesn’t have anything to do with your ability to perform, it has to do with a need to feel better than others.

And sorry bub, the only place you have in World of Warcraft these days is in the shadowed hallows of elitist guilds, atrophying a little more day by day because they’re unable to adapt to the changing times. WoW is a game and, whether some people like it or not, every person playing it is worth the same.

The irony, of course, is that this player must realize his views are flagging because he goes on to a blog like Tobold’s, someone who’s disagreed with his very points in the past, to make himself heard. The comments section of a popular blog is his best soap box because that kind of crap is shouted down by most other players in the game. Yet, he continues on.

Ah well. He can keep to his shadowy niche. That’s fine. In-game, I ignore that kind of player because, nine times out of ten, when they go public they get shut down anyways. Out of game, I take note because… really? Have you not been paying attention to the last year of the game? The internet is a place of record and I find it interesting that someone would step into a sea of disagreeing voices to document how well they don’t fit in.

– Chris


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  1. Andrew

    Most of us who agree that WoW is so much less than it used to be have left already. It’s just kinda sad that this guy is still hanging on, wailing into the wind and getting nowhere.

  2. Kromus

    wow getting easier is kinda annoying, but at the same time it makes it more playable. Its a double edged sword to be honest.

    I mean, are we acting like old men here? My step dad often reminds of how the Pit was and how it would “do me good” to work there. Fuck that, just because he had a shit range of job choices doesn’t mean future generations should.

    Now then, looking like that at WoW, is it lots of ‘Step dads'(elitists) moaning at lots ‘Kromus'(casual)?

    Regardless, its 100% getting easier, but if this makes the game more enjoyable or not, only time will tell.

  3. Maxivik

    When I was your age we walked to school up hill both ways in the snow barefoot… aka 40 man raids. For me what it comes down to is I’d rather play a game then have a second job. I stopped playing muds when it became a job to get people to play, I stopped playing CS when there was mandatory team practices, I’m glad that WoW, and from what it sounds like other MMO’s, is actually becoming more fun as time goes on for me. If that makes me a casual player, thats fine by me!

    1. Chris

      Amen. I have an older school outlook on things but there’s nothing wrong with accessibility. I’d bet, Maxivik, that even when you were doing those 40 man raids you weren’t posting around the internet about how everyone else in the game was a scrub or should let you have your way because you know best. I checked out the guy’s blog a little bit and it has this antiquated sense of arrogance that just doesn’t fit with modern gaming.

      On a different note, I was in that same situation when I was finishing out on my MUD! We were trying to pool together money to put ads up on MUD Connector and some gaming magazine (I forget which). I’m glad we didn’t because the game is still around and the player drop was inevitable with more advanced games coming out. Small world.

  4. Elumine

    Rather than complaining about how dumbed-down WoW has become, I have simply quit.

  5. We Fly Spitfires

    Blizzard decided a while ago that they want to make WoW accessible to as many players as possible – it’s the classic bell curve scenario – and I don’t think most people can argue against their logic. WoW is the most popular game it’s a real shame if only a small percentage of players are experiencing all of the raids and high level content. At the end of the day, the majority of WoW players are casual (I’m one of them) and I’m gald to see the game evolve down that track.

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